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		<title>By: G.O.B.</title>
		<link>http://www.losanjealous.com/2006/02/10/la-to-prez-yeah-right-whatever/comment-page-1/#comment-1399</link>
		<dc:creator>G.O.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V. and neal have it mostly right.  Here&#039;s a good place to begin your rethinking, jk:

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V. and neal have it mostly right.  Here&#8217;s a good place to begin your rethinking, jk:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The steel beams didnâ€™t fail. *The joints* failed. 

So the joints weren&#039;t made of steel too? What were they, wax?


I was only stating facts that seem completely incongrous to the official story of events on 9-11.  I didn&#039;t say I support the theory of planted explosives.

Again, my point is: the administration removed all pertintent evidence to support OR refute thier assertion of the day&#039;s events. If they had nothing whatsoever to hide, why would they do this?

For me this is reason enough to believe they are complicit.
Because they can&#039;t show evidence that they &lt;i&gt;aren&#039;t&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The steel beams didnâ€™t fail. *The joints* failed. </p>
<p>So the joints weren&#8217;t made of steel too? What were they, wax?</p>
<p>I was only stating facts that seem completely incongrous to the official story of events on 9-11.  I didn&#8217;t say I support the theory of planted explosives.</p>
<p>Again, my point is: the administration removed all pertintent evidence to support OR refute thier assertion of the day&#8217;s events. If they had nothing whatsoever to hide, why would they do this?</p>
<p>For me this is reason enough to believe they are complicit.<br />
Because they can&#8217;t show evidence that they <i>aren&#8217;t</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Interesting enough, Fires have never before (or
&gt; after) brought down a steel structure. Itâ€™s a
&gt; fact that firemen tend to run inside a steel
&gt; building, better in there than outside under
&gt; falling debris.

Don&#039;t forget that the external steel structure of the WTC was what made it architecturally unique. This was no ordinary design, which was why the Towers managed to be the world&#039;s tallest buildings for quite some time.

&gt; Thereâ€™s also the point that jet fuel burns at a
&gt; (relatively low) temperature, no where near the
&gt; temp required to weaken, soften or otherwise
&gt; diminish the integrity of fire-retardant covered 
&gt; steel beams.

The steel beams didn&#039;t fail. *The joints* failed. Have you read anything about the structural failure of the building, or just watched this paranoid documentary?

Look, we&#039;ll all believe whatever we prefer to believe, and if it comforts you more to imagine that someone had to go wire the building with dynamite to bring it down, so be it. But don&#039;t be surprised if most people react to you with incredulity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Interesting enough, Fires have never before (or<br />
&gt; after) brought down a steel structure. Itâ€™s a<br />
&gt; fact that firemen tend to run inside a steel<br />
&gt; building, better in there than outside under<br />
&gt; falling debris.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that the external steel structure of the WTC was what made it architecturally unique. This was no ordinary design, which was why the Towers managed to be the world&#8217;s tallest buildings for quite some time.</p>
<p>&gt; Thereâ€™s also the point that jet fuel burns at a<br />
&gt; (relatively low) temperature, no where near the<br />
&gt; temp required to weaken, soften or otherwise<br />
&gt; diminish the integrity of fire-retardant covered<br />
&gt; steel beams.</p>
<p>The steel beams didn&#8217;t fail. *The joints* failed. Have you read anything about the structural failure of the building, or just watched this paranoid documentary?</p>
<p>Look, we&#8217;ll all believe whatever we prefer to believe, and if it comforts you more to imagine that someone had to go wire the building with dynamite to bring it down, so be it. But don&#8217;t be surprised if most people react to you with incredulity.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jk: You are right to be skeptical.  But if you are curious, there is much information out there.  Neal nails the main points on the improbability of steel building structural failure due to fire alone.  

A new compilation of news clips from that day is making the rounds on file sharing sites.  Search &#039;loose change dvd.&#039; You can turn down the volume on all the narrator&#039;s more accusatory commentary (which is compelling) and just watch the broadcast news footage that captured secondary detonations, along with interviews of firefighters on the scene that verify it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jk: You are right to be skeptical.  But if you are curious, there is much information out there.  Neal nails the main points on the improbability of steel building structural failure due to fire alone.  </p>
<p>A new compilation of news clips from that day is making the rounds on file sharing sites.  Search &#8216;loose change dvd.&#8217; You can turn down the volume on all the narrator&#8217;s more accusatory commentary (which is compelling) and just watch the broadcast news footage that captured secondary detonations, along with interviews of firefighters on the scene that verify it.</p>
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		<title>By: neal</title>
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		<dc:creator>neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting enough, Fires have never before (or after) brought down a steel structure. It&#039;s a fact that firemen tend to run inside a steel building, better in there than outside under falling debris.

There&#039;s also the point that jet fuel burns at a (relatively low) temperature, no where near the temp required to weaken, soften or otherwise diminish the integrity of fire-retardant covered steel beams. 

Course, some of those beams could have been well and truly destroyed in the actual impact. It&#039;s unfortunate that we can&#039;t examine them because they were all shipped off before a forensic team was allowed to examine them. Bill Manning, editor of the firefighters trade mag &quot;Fire Engineering Magazine&quot; called it the biggest destruction of evidence in American history. (quoting him:&quot;Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist fire? Did they throw away the gas can used at the happy land social club fire? ... That&#039;s what they&#039;re doing at the World Trade Center. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately&quot;)

The debate on the finer points and evidence in 9-11 will rage forever, simply because the government removed all of the evidence worth looking at. This is reason alone to be suspicious of what they tell you happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting enough, Fires have never before (or after) brought down a steel structure. It&#8217;s a fact that firemen tend to run inside a steel building, better in there than outside under falling debris.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the point that jet fuel burns at a (relatively low) temperature, no where near the temp required to weaken, soften or otherwise diminish the integrity of fire-retardant covered steel beams. </p>
<p>Course, some of those beams could have been well and truly destroyed in the actual impact. It&#8217;s unfortunate that we can&#8217;t examine them because they were all shipped off before a forensic team was allowed to examine them. Bill Manning, editor of the firefighters trade mag &#8220;Fire Engineering Magazine&#8221; called it the biggest destruction of evidence in American history. (quoting him:&#8221;Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist fire? Did they throw away the gas can used at the happy land social club fire? &#8230; That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing at the World Trade Center. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately&#8221;)</p>
<p>The debate on the finer points and evidence in 9-11 will rage forever, simply because the government removed all of the evidence worth looking at. This is reason alone to be suspicious of what they tell you happened.</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; As it is now known from the extensive (exhaustive)
&gt; dissection of The Events of Nine-Eleven, these
&gt; modern skyscrapers cannot be brought down by
&gt; hi-jacked-plane-as-missile strikes, but require
&gt; detonation of pre-planted explosives. This is not
&gt; marginalized conspiracy theory claptrap;

Uh, what?

No one with an iota of credibility honestly believes pre-planted explosives brought down the Twin Towers. Airliners full of jet fuel and structural failure was more than sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; As it is now known from the extensive (exhaustive)<br />
&gt; dissection of The Events of Nine-Eleven, these<br />
&gt; modern skyscrapers cannot be brought down by<br />
&gt; hi-jacked-plane-as-missile strikes, but require<br />
&gt; detonation of pre-planted explosives. This is not<br />
&gt; marginalized conspiracy theory claptrap;</p>
<p>Uh, what?</p>
<p>No one with an iota of credibility honestly believes pre-planted explosives brought down the Twin Towers. Airliners full of jet fuel and structural failure was more than sufficient.</p>
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