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	<title>Comments on: Fuck Buttons, The Wiltern, September 9, 2008</title>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://www.losanjealous.com/2008/09/12/fuck-buttons-the-wiltern-september-9-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-236935</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no problem, peace.  (for the record I&#039;m not &quot;against&quot; electronic music - have gone to chemical brothers, moby, daft punk shows, etc. and enjoyed that)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no problem, peace.  (for the record I&#8217;m not &#8220;against&#8221; electronic music &#8211; have gone to chemical brothers, moby, daft punk shows, etc. and enjoyed that)</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I would pay to see them headline because I&#039;ve seen them twice this year. Al, this is all about personal viewpoint and preferences. Peace, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I would pay to see them headline because I&#8217;ve seen them twice this year. Al, this is all about personal viewpoint and preferences. Peace, ok?</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://www.losanjealous.com/2008/09/12/fuck-buttons-the-wiltern-september-9-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-236924</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to combine two recent topics (and stoke the fire a bit) here&#039;s Pitchfork&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:zjqVU1as6sEJ:www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/49331-guide-to-pitchforks-sxsw-2008-coverage+fuck+buttons&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;high regard&lt;/a&gt; for Fuck Buttons&#039; performance at this year&#039;s SXSW festival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to combine two recent topics (and stoke the fire a bit) here&#8217;s Pitchfork&#8217;s <a href="http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:zjqVU1as6sEJ:www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/49331-guide-to-pitchforks-sxsw-2008-coverage+fuck+buttons&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">high regard</a> for Fuck Buttons&#8217; performance at this year&#8217;s SXSW festival.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
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		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to know the answer to that question, db.  Opening acts aren&#039;t always chosen because the band is a huge fan of them...

Even Mogwai joked about them on their blog (although sort of...sort of.. rescinded it in the next entry):

&quot;People loved Fuck Buttons’ set and it made me wonder how brutally strong the LSD must be in this city. I mean, some guy shouting into a children’s toy while another mentally ill person screams monkey noises into a cheap effects pedal really just isn’t enjoyable unless you’ve been fed an heroic dose of hallucinogenic drugs.&quot; 

PS - It takes just as much God-given infinite wisdom to say Fuck Buttons was great and I&#039;m wrong.... doesn&#039;t it?  

Would you pay to see Fuck Buttons play their own headlining show?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to know the answer to that question, db.  Opening acts aren&#8217;t always chosen because the band is a huge fan of them&#8230;</p>
<p>Even Mogwai joked about them on their blog (although sort of&#8230;sort of.. rescinded it in the next entry):</p>
<p>&#8220;People loved Fuck Buttons’ set and it made me wonder how brutally strong the LSD must be in this city. I mean, some guy shouting into a children’s toy while another mentally ill person screams monkey noises into a cheap effects pedal really just isn’t enjoyable unless you’ve been fed an heroic dose of hallucinogenic drugs.&#8221; </p>
<p>PS &#8211; It takes just as much God-given infinite wisdom to say Fuck Buttons was great and I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;. doesn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>Would you pay to see Fuck Buttons play their own headlining show?</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<dc:creator>db</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there for both bands. MC&#039;s last statement on his post #7 pretty much sums it up quite well. 

Al, ask yourself, why did Mogwai ask them to open, huh? Guess they must be deaf and can&#039;t hear how horrible Fuck Buttons are, unlike you and your infinite God-given musical wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there for both bands. MC&#8217;s last statement on his post #7 pretty much sums it up quite well. </p>
<p>Al, ask yourself, why did Mogwai ask them to open, huh? Guess they must be deaf and can&#8217;t hear how horrible Fuck Buttons are, unlike you and your infinite God-given musical wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i will admit, however, that the song with the guy in the hoodie jumping around with his tribal yelps was kind of funny to watch :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i will admit, however, that the song with the guy in the hoodie jumping around with his tribal yelps was kind of funny to watch :)</p>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m surprised by this reaction.  i found their set pretty compelling.  i know the people around me did as well, with their heads bobbing and whatnot (which is as much as you can ask for from an indie crowd these days, especially for an opening band).  

their music might not be groundbreaking, and in that sense &quot;interesting&quot;, but i do find their textures/unified aesthetic quite compelling.  the atmosphere they&#039;re after requires a certain patience.  it&#039;s like watching a tarkovsky film, or something.  yes, it&#039;s artsy shite, and really long, and very slow, but if you allow yourself to be enveloped by it you can find yourself being taken to places that, to be frank, modern music rarely even shoots for.  they paint pictures and create worlds.  but, of course, if you&#039;re not into it completely then i can understand how you would find the set unbearable.  i guess it&#039;s your loss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m surprised by this reaction.  i found their set pretty compelling.  i know the people around me did as well, with their heads bobbing and whatnot (which is as much as you can ask for from an indie crowd these days, especially for an opening band).  </p>
<p>their music might not be groundbreaking, and in that sense &#8220;interesting&#8221;, but i do find their textures/unified aesthetic quite compelling.  the atmosphere they&#8217;re after requires a certain patience.  it&#8217;s like watching a tarkovsky film, or something.  yes, it&#8217;s artsy shite, and really long, and very slow, but if you allow yourself to be enveloped by it you can find yourself being taken to places that, to be frank, modern music rarely even shoots for.  they paint pictures and create worlds.  but, of course, if you&#8217;re not into it completely then i can understand how you would find the set unbearable.  i guess it&#8217;s your loss?</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW i found this website because it was the first search result under the search query &quot;fuck buttons so terrible.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW i found this website because it was the first search result under the search query &#8220;fuck buttons so terrible.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just saw the mogwai show in richmond. i&#039;m not too familiar with mogwai but i thought their live show was beautiful. a friend recommended them to me. ok. so about fuck buttons...

going into the show, i had never heard fuck buttons and was only vaguely familiar with mogwai. during the fuck buttons set, i text my friend:

&quot;please reassure me that mogwai is infinitely better than fuck buttons, the worst thing in the world. ever.&quot;

he replies &quot;absolutely. yeah, mogwai always tours with artsy shit in the states.&quot;

only &#039;artsy shit&#039; is too kind a description. this was an absolute abortion of a performance, or audio exhibition, or whatever it was. the majority of the concert-goers seemed confused and angered over fuck buttons but of course there were attention-craving scenesters who applauded and cheered at the end of the set as if they had just witnessed a fucking miracle like that dead fucker, ian from joy division, resurrect from the dead to collaborate with my bloody valetine to sing a shoegazey rendition of &quot;love will tear us apart.&quot; 

fuck buttons = abomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just saw the mogwai show in richmond. i&#8217;m not too familiar with mogwai but i thought their live show was beautiful. a friend recommended them to me. ok. so about fuck buttons&#8230;</p>
<p>going into the show, i had never heard fuck buttons and was only vaguely familiar with mogwai. during the fuck buttons set, i text my friend:</p>
<p>&#8220;please reassure me that mogwai is infinitely better than fuck buttons, the worst thing in the world. ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>he replies &#8220;absolutely. yeah, mogwai always tours with artsy shit in the states.&#8221;</p>
<p>only &#8216;artsy shit&#8217; is too kind a description. this was an absolute abortion of a performance, or audio exhibition, or whatever it was. the majority of the concert-goers seemed confused and angered over fuck buttons but of course there were attention-craving scenesters who applauded and cheered at the end of the set as if they had just witnessed a fucking miracle like that dead fucker, ian from joy division, resurrect from the dead to collaborate with my bloody valetine to sing a shoegazey rendition of &#8220;love will tear us apart.&#8221; </p>
<p>fuck buttons = abomination.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
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		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet we were there to see the same band you were (unless you actually came to see Fuck Buttons - which I find hard to believe).  

Was it a mistake?  Ooops!  I wandered into the wiltern... guess I&#039;ll stay...  who are these mogwai people?  ... I hope they sing pop songs!  

You just implied the people who came to see the same band you did... don&#039;t like good music.

Repetitious loops and rhythms are nothing new. Get a copy of Ableton Live (or any similar software) and you&#039;ll see how hard it is to make music that &quot;circles around and round.&quot;  Two guys fiddling around with digital delay and loops is neither groundbreaking nor interesting.

I&#039;m not sure where either of &quot;the lot&quot; of us said anything about the band reflecting on ourselves.  However, I will agree with you - we were sad.  Sad that the opening band was so bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet we were there to see the same band you were (unless you actually came to see Fuck Buttons &#8211; which I find hard to believe).  </p>
<p>Was it a mistake?  Ooops!  I wandered into the wiltern&#8230; guess I&#8217;ll stay&#8230;  who are these mogwai people?  &#8230; I hope they sing pop songs!  </p>
<p>You just implied the people who came to see the same band you did&#8230; don&#8217;t like good music.</p>
<p>Repetitious loops and rhythms are nothing new. Get a copy of Ableton Live (or any similar software) and you&#8217;ll see how hard it is to make music that &#8220;circles around and round.&#8221;  Two guys fiddling around with digital delay and loops is neither groundbreaking nor interesting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where either of &#8220;the lot&#8221; of us said anything about the band reflecting on ourselves.  However, I will agree with you &#8211; we were sad.  Sad that the opening band was so bad.</p>
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